As for the pentagon attack. It’s freaking obvious. it was a missle, there’s no plane. Have you seen the damage? no small plane can do that. And no big plane can hit the pentagon without hitting the ground first.

As for why the buildings fell that fast, after the planes hit the building, that’s when the bombs went off.

Here’s something to make you think. I can’t remember the details but every camera near Pentagon was confiscated, later released but already edited. And still clear, no plane was visible in the video.

As for the link you’ve provided, you’ve been had. I’m not sure why you believe in this illogical crap. But like I said, the angles of the choppers are positioned in two different angles. It’s basic geometry man. I learned it from high school.

Also, you have amateur AND clear videos. Don’t choose the video in this in which provides the blurriest of all videos.

Anyhow, what I’m pointing out here is that the case of Pentagon and WTC are different. Don’t mix and mash the issues of the Pentagon ‘attack’ and the WTC attack. (Take note that I included quotes in the 1st ‘attack’ word).

Another thing, they’re just linking Osama in this, there is no direct evidence that Osama is the one who initiated this attack. This is all an inside job. That’s why I laud Bush and his administration that he was able to pull this off and put the blame to Bin Laden and also used the same to stupidly attack Iraq.

I won’t explain further with this 9/11 conspiracy, I suggest you just watch Zeitgeist’s theory on this 9/11 attack, or watch the documentary ‘loose change’ it makes a lot more sense than your link.

watch loose change here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

However, the planes might not have existed at all. There were NO planes or even debris or the black boxes found in Pentagon and Pennsylvania (the plane that was supposed to hit the White House). And of course, there were absolutely not traces of the supposedly JUMBO JETS that hit the WTC towers.

And how about the third building (Building No. 7?) that fell, much like the WTC;i.e., like it was deliberately demolished. No one even claimed that a third plane hit it. It simply fell on its own. Perhaps it felt lonely standing there without the Twin Towers?

As to the small explosions when the buildings were falling, a fireman was interviewed and they said there were mini explosions — “boom, boom , boom”, while gesturing with his hand that the “boom” sound was coming from the higher to the lower floors.

Why don’t you check the link provided here? http://livevideo.com/socialservice

I’m a bit sure that the police did was to follow orders from the war lord. They are humans who need to put food on the table after all. Not to forget that the Gov’t official has ‘that’ reputation. What more if not to obey what the person was told to do? It seems that part of Mindanao, it is to please the war lord or be killed

logically the position of two choppers used by NBC and CBS are in two different angles.

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CBS chopper

empire state

NBC chopper twin towers
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note that the angles of the helicopters above. The empire state bldg will obviously and definitely be looking like it’s on the left side from the NBC chopper. While from the view of the CBS, it will definitely look like the empire state is on the right. It’s simple geometry.

I agree with you that common sense dictates that buildings do not fall that fast if there is resistance from the lower floors of the building. It is because the logic behind it was there were already bombs placed in the foundations of the two buildings. You will obviously hear small explosions inside before the buildings collapsed.

What made me reply to this post was it’s as if you were telling everyone that the WTC never existed at all. Have you been to NY?

First, the Mangudadatus are not nobodies. They hold various political positions in different municipalities as well as the governorship of the adjacent province of Sultan Kudarat. The governor’s driver was also in the convoy. They, too, maintain a private army.

Second, one sister of Esmail is the incumbent Vice Mayor of the Mangudadatu municipality. She therefore carried political prestige/power in her own right.

Third, two lawyers accompanied them. Criminal elements are usually afraid of lawyers

Fourth, dozens of journalists are in the convoy.

Fifth, they had notified the military and the police of their intention.

Sixth, their going to the Comelec office was well publicized in the province.

Seventh, in Islam, it is forbidden to harm women, children and the elderly in times of war or conflict.

The Mangudadatus must have thought that they had all the bases covered.

No politician in Mindanao or elsewhere would dare do anything untoward to such a company.

Even the Ampatuans would not dare do such a thing if they were left on their own. They must have EXTERNAL support. We now know that the POLICE was with them. In fact, the killings were done in a POLICE CHECKPOINT. And we now know that the military refused to give protection because they claim that their troops are leaving Maguindanao for Samar. (How convenient! And what will they do in Samar?)

The Ampatuans and their cohorts must have been convinced that the truth would not be known. As in the scenario above, they already planned to lay the blame on the MILF.

Note that Sec. Dureza claimed that the helicopter carrying him and Ampatuan,Jr. were fired upon. Certainly the Ampatuans would not fire upon their own. And the Mangudadatus would not do such a reckless thing, especially since all eyes were on them. So who else would have the capacity to fire upon a helicopter gunship high above the ground?

The first statements of Gibo, Ermita, and Puno mentioned the MILF. Then came Dureza’s claim. Were they laying the ground for a cover-up?

Fortunately, Andal Ampatuan, Jr. dug his own grave further. In an ambush interview at the NBI, Andal, Jr. blurted out that he was innocent and accused the MILF. Andal Ampatuan, Jr. said something like, “Wala ako doon. Nasa municipio ako. Ang MILF ang gumawa niyan. Si Umbra Kato yan. Mga terorista sila!”

Andal Jr’s outburst ended whatever hope for a cover-up. Well, it should.

So, I think the Mangudadatus’ decision was well calculated. Unfortunately, they did not realize that they were dealing with powerful madmen — men and women mad for power.

Gaining a governorship, or even a presidency, could never compensate for the loss of the lives of one’s loved ones.

Losing one’s loved ones could never be a WIN situation. Gaining a governorship, or even a presidency, could never compensate for the loss of the lives of one’s loved ones.

weird as this may sound, i have a feeling that vice mayor esmael had knowledge that this was going to happen but nevertheless sent his wife and cousins and the others to push through with the filing of his COC.

the way i see it, this was a win-win situation for him.
1. if the entourage could successfully file his COC, then it would be a big slap on the face of the ampatuans as he would be THE man who dared go against the giants, as no one dared to contest them before.

2. but if something bad happens to the convoy composing of women and journalists, then the vice mayor would automatically gain the edge due to public sentiments and outcry.

i feel for him. but i don’t feel his decision. he literally fed them to the sharks.

Don’t put what is not there. That was simply the scenario.

We have been calling for all-out war against Abu Sayyaf from the start. But who created the Abu Sayyaf in the first place? You can research official, including judicial, documents.

Do you really believe that the military wants the Abu Sayyaf eliminated?

To the others,

This was not the first time that such barbaric killings happened. But when the victims are mere Moros, there are no investigations, hardly any media coverage and certainly no outcry from the public.

I just hope that this is an eye opener to the Filipino public and even the whole world. People must realize that these things happen all the time in Maguindanao and elsewhere in the ARMM.

Thank you all for your comments.

When you say “The media cry to high heavens for justice. The Christian Filipinos clamor for all-out war against the MILF and Abu Sayyaf.”

Do you mean that we shouldn’t do an all-out war against Abu Sayyaf?